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		<title>Klout vs PeerIndex : Topics API battle</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>philgo20</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need data for @matchFWD. A lot. We need data to help us suggest the best  talent matches for an open job opportunity to our connectors. We&#8217;re only 2 developers, and I spend too much time not coding so we need help. There&#8217;s currently 2 API that buzzed trying to evaluate influence, reach, reputation and authority <a class="more-link" href="https://philgo20.com/2011/01/klout-vs-peerindex-topics-api-battle/">- Read More -</a>]]></description>
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<p>We need data for <a href="http://matchfwd.com" target="_blank">@matchFWD</a>.</p>
<p>A lot.</p>
<p>We need data to help us suggest the best  talent matches for an open job opportunity to our connectors.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re only 2 developers, and I spend too much time not coding so we need help.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s currently 2 API that buzzed trying to evaluate influence, reach, reputation and authority of Twitter users : <a class="zem_slink" title="Klout" rel="homepage" href="http://klout.com">Klout</a> and <a class="zem_slink" title="PeerIndex" rel="homepage" href="http://www.viewsflow.com">PeerIndex</a>.</p>
<p>I am not really interested by most metrics right now, but I want to know what topics a user tweet about. Lucky for me both API have such a method so I ran a small manual test on Twitter users I know and follow well enough to judge the results</p>
<p>Here are the results&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="twitter.com/byosko">Ben Yoskovitz (byosko)</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : &#8221;Entrepreneurship&#8221;,&#8221;social media&#8221;,&#8221;Human Resources&#8221;</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;private equity&#8221;,&#8221;venture capital&#8221;,&#8221;finance&#8221;,&#8221;marketing&#8221;,&#8221;montreal&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/GeorgesDuverger">GeorgesDuverger</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : &#8220;Montreal&#8221;,&#8221;Yul&#8221;,&#8221;Developers&#8221;</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;free software&#8221;,&#8221;realtime web&#8221;,&#8221;google chrome&#8221;,&#8221;science&#8221;,&#8221;api&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/cmercier">Carl Mercier (cmercier)</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : &#8220;Montreal&#8221;,&#8221;Met&#8221;,&#8221;technology&#8221;</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;databases&#8221;,&#8221;data management&#8221;,&#8221;digital media&#8221;,&#8221;ipad&#8221;,&#8221;iphone&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/DavidDesjardins">DavidDesjardins</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : nothing&#8230;.</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;cycling&#8221;,&#8221;andy schleck&#8221;,&#8221;bessette&#8221;,&#8221;bicycle sharing system&#8221;,&#8221;cervlo&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/mdufort">Martin Dufort (mdufort)</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : &#8220;iPhone&#8221;,&#8221;Apple&#8221;,&#8221;Google&#8221;</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;iphone&#8221;,&#8221;cloud clients&#8221;,&#8221;embedded linux&#8221;,&#8221;apple tv&#8221;,&#8221;nexus&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/sebprovencher">Seb Provencher (sebprovencher)</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : &#8221;"Montreal&#8221;,&#8221;Marketing&#8221;,&#8221;Quebec&#8221;</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;marketing&#8221;,&#8221;mass media&#8221;,&#8221;realtime web&#8221;,&#8221;digital media&#8221;,&#8221;bing&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/alexdao">Alex Dao (alexdao)</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : &#8220;Montreal&#8221;,&#8221;Retailers&#8221;,&#8221;Regions&#8221;</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;montreal&#8221;,&#8221;realtime web&#8221;,&#8221;google search&#8221;,&#8221;marketing&#8221;,&#8221;villemarie montreal&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/philgo20">Myself</a></p>
<ul>
<li>Klout : &#8220;Quebec&#8221;,&#8221;Techno&#8221;,&#8221;Francophone&#8221;</li>
<li>PeerIndex : &#8220;mass media&#8221;,&#8221;collaboration&#8221;,&#8221;marketing&#8221;,&#8221;community websites&#8221;,&#8221;criticism of facebook&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p>Klout seems to limit the number of topics to three and is much more generic. If I had to classify my users in large bucket, that could be interesting but it wouldn&#8217;t make it easier to identify specifically everyone in my twitter feed.</p>
<p>PeerIndex results are much more precise and diverse. The downside, I would guess without testing, is that they are probably much more volatile. The topics you rank for this week, won&#8217;t be next week topics&#8230; So how do you deal with this&#8230; You weight all tags you attach to your users ?</p>
<p>What am I going to use ? Most probably both. Now let&#8217;s it Stackoverflow API and GitHub API to find great developers&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you use these ? How ?</p>
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<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/07/who-needs-whuffie-whats-your-peerindex-at-le-web/">Who needs Whuffie &#8211; What&#8217;s your PeerIndex at Le Web?</a> (techcrunch.com)</li>
<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://www.enterpriseirregulars.com/31280/real-vs-faux-%25e2%2580%2598influence%25e2%2580%2599-and-why-klout-matters/">Real vs Faux &#8216;Influence&#8217; and why Klout Matters</a> (enterpriseirregulars.com)</li>
<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/01/10/klout-gets-8-5m-to-create-the-page-rank-of-the-social-web/">Klout Gets $8.5M to Create the Page Rank of the Social Web</a> (gigaom.com)</li>
<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://scrapsofmygeeklife.com/social-media/klout-peerindex-big-picture/">Your Klout and PeerIndex Are Something, But Not Everything</a> (scrapsofmygeeklife.com)</li>
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		<title>5 [bonnes] raisons d&#8217;organiser ProductCamp Montreal (21 novembre 2010, gratuit)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>philgo20</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Échanger avec des trippeux de Produit de diverses industries Sensibiliser des entreprises locales à l&#8217;importance de la gestion de produit Apprendre de l&#8217;expérience d&#8217;autres Product Manager Aider des entreprises à recruter pour ce rôle Meubler un dimanche de novembre Ça se déroule le 21 novembre. Enregistrez vous ici et proposez des sujets de discussion de <a class="more-link" href="https://philgo20.com/2010/11/5-bonnes-raisons-dorganiser-un-productcamp-montreal/">- Read More -</a>]]></description>
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<li>Échanger avec des trippeux de Produit de diverses industries</li>
<li>Sensibiliser des entreprises locales à l&#8217;importance de la gestion de produit</li>
<li>Apprendre de l&#8217;expérience d&#8217;autres <a class="zem_slink freebase/en/product_manager" title="Product manager" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_manager">Product Manager</a></li>
<li>Aider des entreprises à recruter pour ce rôle</li>
<li>Meubler un dimanche de novembre</li>
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<p>Ça se déroule le 21 novembre. <a href="http://www.productcampmontreal.com/fr-ca/registration/contact" target="_blank">Enregistrez vous ici</a> et <a href="http://www.productcampmontreal.com/fr-ca/sessions" target="_blank">proposez des sujets de discussion de ce côté</a>.</p>
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		<title>Je veux un nouveau filtre pour mon web à Noël</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>philgo20</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pour Noël, je veux pouvoir filtrer me sources d&#8217;info et les mentions de mots clés selon les participants et les auteurs. Quand je fais une recherche, je veux qu&#8217;on me sorte des conversations se déroulant entre des gens qui correspondent à certain critères que j&#8217;aurai défini selon la recherche : domaine d&#8217;expertise, degré de proximité, <a class="more-link" href="https://philgo20.com/2009/12/je-veux-un-nouveau-filtre-pour-mon-web/">- Read More -</a>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pour Noël, je veux pouvoir filtrer me sources d&#8217;info et les mentions de mots clés selon les participants et les auteurs. Quand je fais une recherche, je veux qu&#8217;on me sorte des conversations se déroulant entre des gens qui correspondent à certain critères que j&#8217;aurai défini selon la recherche : domaine d&#8217;expertise, degré de proximité, géo-location, niveau d&#8217;influence.</p>
<p>Merci Internet</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s wrong with User Ranking so far? Relevancy !</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the web enters a more user-centric era where conversations can be gold mines,  you will soon need the ability to filter content and news based on the influence level of the messenger to cut through the noise. If you are looking for good blogs or discussions about Django (my current framework of development), you <a class="more-link" href="https://philgo20.com/2009/12/whats-wrong-with-user-ranking-so-far-relevancy/">- Read More -</a>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the web enters a more user-centric era where conversations can be gold mines,  you will soon need the ability to filter content and news based on the influence level of the messenger to cut through the noise. If you are looking for good blogs or discussions about <a class="zem_slink freebase/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000006efedc" title="Django (web framework)" rel="homepage" href="http://www.djangoproject.com"><span><span><span><span>Django</span></span></span></span></a> (my current framework of development), you should be able  to see any post/tweets written or commented by  Jacob <span><span><span><span>Kaplan</span></span></span></span>-Moss (one of the lead developer) at the top of your search results.</p>
<p>To do that, you first need to determine who has some influence online around that topic. There is currently multiple web services to evaluate user ranking, and <a href="http://philgo20.com/2009/08/top-3-twitter-ranking-tools-test-and-review/" target="_blank">I&#8217;ve <span><span>reviewed</span></span> some here</a><span>. <span><span><span>Klout</span></span></span> is another of those services and a pretty popular one. Main problem with most of them is that they usually have no concept of relevancy : they evaluate your reach, influence, activity and other parameters as a generic score, without any relation to a topic or domain of influence.</span></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just performed a search for <a href="http://klout.com/topic/lists/django/" target="_blank">&#8216;Django&#8217; in <span><span><span><span>Klout&#8217;s</span></span></span></span> topics search box</a>. Number one <span><span><span><span>influencer</span></span></span></span> on this somewhat niche topic is &#8230; Tara Hunt aka <span><span><span><span>MissRogue</span></span></span></span>. For those who might not know here, <a href="http://twitter.com/missrogue" target="_blank"><span><span><span><span>MissRogue</span></span></span></span> </a>is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Hunt" target="_blank">successful author/marketing consultant/entrepreneur</a> with a somewhat decent audience of &#8230; <a href="http://twitter.com/missrogue/followers" target="_blank">29757 </a>(Dec 1st 2009)followers on Twitter. She probably knows more about <span><span><span><span>Django</span></span></span></span> than the average person, but I would have expected Jacob <span><span><span><span>Kaplan</span></span></span></span>-Moss or some of the <span><span><span><span>bloggers</span></span></span></span> in <a href="http://groups.diigo.com/group/django_philgo20" target="_blank"><span>my <span><span><span>Django</span></span></span> links collections</span></a> to be slightly above her in such ranking&#8230;</p>
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<p>What happened is probably that she tweeted that keyword several days ago and the <a href="http://klout.com/" target="_blank"><span><span><span><span>Klout</span></span></span></span></a> engine pick it up, putting here in their <span><span><span><span>Django</span></span></span></span> topic basket and by looking at the outstanding number of followers she has, <span><span>promoted</span></span> her to the top of the list. A more complete analyze of her tweets would have been enough to avoid this error. Further analysis of shared link would be even better, but slightly more complex.</p>
<p>User Ranking methods and technology will most certainly become ubiquitous in a near future and evolve into something solid and relevant enough to be used as a content and conversation filter,<a href="http://bit.ly/4vTeKF" target="_blank"> as well as for targeted advertising purposes</a>. A great example of the relevancy concept can <span><span>be</span></span> found in <a href="http://www.traackr.com/thinking/approach.html" target="_blank"><span><span><span><span>Traackr</span></span></span></span> </a>from which I just got a demo. They still do some manual intervention for quality assurance, but they have included a relevancy score related to the queried domain, as I would expect. We talked a little bit about their <span><span><span><span>roadmap</span></span></span></span> and they seems to have some pretty interesting stuff coming up.</p>
<p>Are you planning to use some kind of User Ranking in your applications or web strategies ? How ? What are you expecting from such tools ?</p>
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		<title>There&#8217;s Never Been A Better Time To Comment On Your Favorite Blogs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Image via CrunchBase Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I like Twitter and I use it all the time. But since it became the fastest growing channel, the number of real blog comments have dropped enormously. You often find yourself looking through rows of re-tweets that were collected by a Backtype or Disqus plugin at the bottom <a class="more-link" href="https://philgo20.com/2009/11/theres-never-been-a-better-time-to-comment-on-your-favorite-blogs/">- Read More -</a>]]></description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I like <a class="zem_slink freebase/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000484d119" title="Twitter" rel="homepage" href="http://twitter.com/">Twitter</a> and I use it all the time. But since it became the fastest growing channel, the number of real blog comments have dropped enormously. You often find yourself looking through rows of re-tweets that were collected by a <a class="zem_slink" title="BackType" rel="homepage" href="http://www.backtype.com/">Backtype</a> or <a class="zem_slink" title="DISQUS" rel="homepage" href="http://www.disqus.com/">Disqus</a> plugin at the bottom of a great post to realize that it was retweeted 30 times and commented once&#8230; Worse, how many times have you seen an heavily retweeted post with 0 comments ?</p>
<p>Retweeting shows appreciation but it&#8217;s gotten so easy, that it seems less and less users takes the time to join the conversation and comment. Not talking about adding  15 char to a retweet here. It&#8217;s probably true that Twitter increased the number of participants in those conversations, but they rarely add real value to it but simply passing it to their own network. Which is good but &#8230;</p>
<p>Looks like a great opportunity to show your favorite bloggers or new one you just found out about that you value their content and ideas. I am 100% sure they remember more easily comments that retweets&#8230; which could be a great opportunity to contact them if you have anything to ask or offer.</p>
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